Biogen (BIIB) This fall 2024 Earnings Name Transcript

Biogen (BIIB -5.90%)
This fall 2024 Earnings Name
Feb 12, 2025, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

• Ready Remarks
• Questions and Solutions
• Name Members

Ready Remarks:

Operator

Good morning. My title is Jennifer, and I might be your convention operator right this moment. Right now, I would prefer to welcome everybody to the Biogen fourth-quarter and full-year 2024 earnings name and enterprise replace. [Operator instructions] At the moment’s convention is being recorded.

Thanks. I might now like to show the convention over to Mr. Tim Energy, head of investor relations. Mr.

Energy, you might start your convention.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Jennifer, and good morning, and welcome to Biogen’s fourth-quarter and full-year 2024 earnings name. Throughout this name, we’ll make forward-looking statements, which contain dangers and uncertainties that will trigger precise outcomes to vary materially from our forward-looking statements. We offer a complete record of threat elements in our SEC filings, which I encourage you to evaluate. Our earnings launch and different paperwork associated to our outcomes in addition to reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP outcomes mentioned on this name could be discovered within the Traders part of biogen.com.

We have additionally posted slides on our web site that we are going to be utilizing in the course of the name. On right this moment’s name, I am joined by our president and chief govt officer, Christopher Viehbacher, Dr. Priya Singhal, head of improvement; and Mike McDonnell, chief monetary officer. We’ll make some opening feedback after which transfer to Q&A.

[Operator instructions] And with that, I will hand over to Chris.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Thanks, Tim. Good morning, everyone. Maybe earlier than we get began, I would identical to to notice that that is Mike McDonnell’s final quarterly presentation as CFO of Biogen. Mike, I consider that is your 97th quarter as a publicly quoted CFO.

So congratulations on that incredible profession and I will simply take the chance to thanks. You have been a terrific associate and staff member, and it has been nice working with you, and we are going to miss you. And we, in fact, are joined right here additionally by Robin Kramer. I am additionally proud to say that we have been in a position to promote from inside, and it is an amazing supply of satisfaction that we’ve that stage of expertise inside the group.

So let’s flip to This fall. As you all know, we’ve been confronted with elevated competitors for our a number of sclerosis franchise. And actually, all of our priorities are interested by how can we now construct a brand new Biogen, how can we construct a brand new section of progress. And we’re targeted actually round three core priorities.

The primary are clearly the 4 merchandise that we launched final 12 months in Alzheimer’s, Friedreich’s ataxia, melancholy, and ALS. Every of these merchandise is just not solely first-in-class however first disease-modifying agent in every of those illnesses. Now that is a supply of satisfaction within the stage of innovation that Biogen is able to. However equally, from a industrial standpoint, it is a vital problem because the stage of training while you’re a pioneer in an space is a lot larger, and we’ll come again and discuss slightly bit extra about that.

The subsequent is we’ve actually reprioritized the pipeline. It is actually been my expertise over time that specializing in plenty of key initiatives is core to enterprise success. And I am fairly grateful to each Priya Singhal and Jane Grogan as a result of they’ve each actually, I feel, cleaned out the pipeline for improvement in Priya’s circumstances, in analysis in Jane’s case, and we’re really excited now by the merchandise which can be in there. We have got plenty of key developments that may begin studying out in 2026.

We predict it is a multibillion-dollar portfolio. And we’re in all probability one of many few corporations that may take a look at a pipeline that might be greater than — it might be greater than our present biopharmaceutical enterprise when it will get to peak gross sales if all of it, clearly, involves market. So if we will go to the — and the third level, in fact, is we’ve redesigned the corporate with a discount of working bills, not simply saving prices for the sake of price however the means to launch assets for investing in progress, and that is what we’re persevering with to do. We’re enthusiastic about our pipeline, however we have additionally freed up an terrible lot of money circulate, as you may see later.

And that money circulate, we’re investing for extra substrate in progress. So sure, now, Dan, please subsequent slide. So the race actually that we’re confronted with is seeing the erosion of our a number of sclerosis product income, however I am notably blissful to see in 2024 that the income from our launch merchandise actually offset the — greater than offset the decline in our a number of sclerosis product income. And certainly, while you really take a look at whole income declined by $160 million, and also you notice that contract manufacturing declined by $247 million, it meant that actually our core pharma enterprise really grew, and that is for the primary time in 4 years.

And that is actually what we’re all about within the close to time period is attempting to make it possible for the income can exceed the a number of sclerosis product decline. A number of sclerosis product decline is clearly pushed by plenty of elements going ahead, together with the timing of it Tysabri, biosimilar within the U.S., and timing of Tecfidera generics in Europe. In order I stated, we have got really 4 very revolutionary pioneering merchandise. Leqembi, we’ll come on and discuss it in some element.

Skyclarys in Friedreich’s ataxia, once more, very first remedy for Friedreich’s ataxia. We have now been in a position to decide from mainly medical claims information that there are roughly 4,800 sufferers within the U.S. That is about what we thought. One of many complexities is that it is tougher to seek out these sufferers since you may have a main care doctor in a rural setting that has one single affected person and it’s a must to go discover them.

And we’re speaking to main care physicians, speaking to cardiologists, speaking to pediatricians. So it is fairly a big prescriber base for a really slender affected person inhabitants. However that, in fact, is the core of what uncommon illnesses does. I keep in mind years in the past, once we acquired Genzyme after I was at Sanofi and the advertising and marketing of us are saying, our advertising and marketing technique is searching for needles in haystacks.

And that’s precisely what uncommon illness is all about, and it is what Biogen can also be excellent at. And naturally, right this moment, we have got much more know-how. We are able to use instruments comparable to AI and genetic testing to assist discover these sufferers, however by its very nature, it’s sadly not going to be the good clean development quarter on quarter. That stated, we’re notably proud to say that we’ve been in a position to double the variety of sufferers on remedy previously 12 months.

Not all of these are but being reimbursed. We’re in a position to get plenty of sufferers on drug after which negotiate with governments, notably in Europe to get the reimbursement and as soon as we try this, the sufferers flip from being free items sufferers to really revenue-generating remedies. There’s all the time a little bit of a — in every nation, plenty of sufferers who’re identified who’ve been ready for remedy and you will get these fairly simply. There are a selection of older sufferers who even have lived with this illness for 30, 40 years.

And they’re those we really need to go hunt for. We are going to see one other progress driver this 12 months and that we count on to get approval for Skyclarys in Latin America. I used to be in Brazil final 12 months and there are fairly plenty of sufferers in Latin America. In order we began with the U.S., we moved to Europe after which we’re shifting to South America and certainly areas of the Center East.

We count on to see continued regular progress out of Skyclarys. However once more, I of respect that it is going to be arduous for a few of you to mannequin on a quarterly foundation. Zurzuvae was a really good launch final 12 months and positively exceeded our expectations. One of many issues that was totally different from our expectations was that the primary prescribers really OBG and OB/GYN.

We had really been focusing on initially high-prescribing psychiatrists. We nonetheless see a few of these, however as you possibly can see, 80% of the prescriptions are pushed by OB/GYNs. That is additionally an space the place you might have probably extra individuals who have ever prescribed for PPD than you even have sufferers. And once more, focusing on and interested by multichannel advertising and marketing and industrial approaches are extraordinarily necessary.

We have now filed in Europe and would hope to see an approval someday later this 12 months. Qalsody is just not essentially a giant income generator, however that is actually a breakthrough remedy in ALS. That is the primary time we have been in a position to reveal that neurofilament can actually assist predict medicine early in improvement as as to if or not they’re prone to work or not. And that enables simply the entire analysis and improvement in ALS to be accelerated.

So we’re notably pleased with that. The influence on sufferers is completely extraordinary. And so — whereas we will not be making a big effect on income, we’re actually making a big effect on sufferers’ lives. Go to the following slide, please.

Dan? Now I confirmed this slide at JPMorgan. And there have been a number of traders who checked out that chart and stated, this isn’t the chart of a small product. And we have all been on this enterprise and checked out plenty of launch curves, and everyone knows that we prefer to see an acceleration within the curve. However any curve that goes from backside left to higher proper is in my books good until we discuss working bills.

And that is good, regular quarter-on-quarter progress. We have now seen some questions on the ex-U.S. launch. Clearly, the ex-U.S.

launch is contributing greater than we’ve seen in prior launches in different areas. I feel a part of that’s — first, I feel Eisai is extraordinarily robust in Asia and they’re main that launch there. However second, I feel the single-payer system removes plenty of the obstacles that we’re coping with within the U.S. When you’ve gotten a single payer, you are not having to barter fairly a lot when it comes to PET scans and MRIs and infusion beds, and that has facilitated the progress.

And it is as robust in China as it’s in Japan, not essentially affected person numbers, however we’re seeing very robust progress in China, and that’s that could be a money pay market. And it goes to actually an indication of how folks worth the significance of Leqembi. So we’ll go to the following chart, please. Now, I talked about a few of these obstacles and we actually see that making this simpler for each sufferers and physicians goes to speed up the launch.

And we’ve plenty of these catalysts. The primary one has already been achieved. So we’ve the Leqembi IV upkeep, that is now FDA-approved. We now have the primary sufferers who’re hitting that 18-month mark.

They’ve cleared their plaque. However as the information have demonstrated, you have to keep on remedy, in any other case, some types of the plaque really come again. And we’ve demonstrated three-year information to indicate that really staying on remedy, sufferers do higher than those that cease remedy. And that is an necessary message as a result of our competitors is definitely not in a position to say that.

And so that is additionally necessary for the training of the illness. It isn’t nearly plaque clearance, it is about sustaining that clearance. The second is de facto the introduction of blood-based diagnostics. Definitely, LabCorp and Quest proceed to see rising gross sales of those diagnostics.

What I feel will actually make a distinction is getting FDA approval for a few of these diagnostics with an proof base that may give physicians the boldness to have the ability to affirm analysis with out the necessity for a PET scan or a lumbar puncture. And so once more, that is one thing that might not solely facilitate the work of the neurologist, however we’d additionally be capable of see this getting used more and more to triage sufferers. One thing like 50% of sufferers who really managed to get right into a neurologist are literally not eligible for remedy as a result of they’re too far superior of their illness. So if we may really triage a few of these sufferers, notably on the main care stage, then we will really get a better quotient of sufferers who go to neurologists really being eligible for remedy.

The subcutaneous kind for upkeep, we might count on now. We have now a PDUFA date on August thirty first. That, once more, will actually facilitate the journey, each for the affected person in addition to for the doctor, now not needing the infusion beds and sufferers can really take the drug from the consolation of their very own house. A significant sport changer we see because the subcutaneous for initiation, which we count on to have within the first half of subsequent 12 months.

And that clearly would additionally facilitate that for a similar causes of not having to cope with infusion beds and sufferers can have that within the consolation of their very own house. The AHEAD 3-45 research is totally recruited. We count on to learn out in 2028. This can be a landmark research as a result of that is the place we may see the promise of probably prevention of Alzheimer’s.

We all know that earlier than sufferers really exhibit signs, they have been accumulating plaques of their brains for a lot of, a few years. And sadly, plenty of harm is completed already by the point sufferers really exhibit signs. So if we will get sufferers earlier, we expect that we will even have even higher efficacy. And actually, Priya goes to indicate shortly, once more, the low tau sufferers, which is a marker for earlier-stage sufferers.

And there, we see dramatically improved efficacy versus simply the 27% on the CDR sum of field that was demonstrated within the CLARITY research. So subsequent slide, please. So these are the 4 merchandise. Clearly, we’re additionally taking a look at our pipeline.

And I feel there are three key areas on this to take a look at. The primary is sustained funding and dedication to Alzheimer’s. We collect among the high main consultants in Alzheimer’s from world wide. They’re those who’re telling us, one, that no person is de facto doing a lot analysis in a broad space of modalities as Biogen, however the different is they’re extraordinarily excited concerning the alternative to scale back tau and the influence that, that might have on Alzheimer’s.

So Alzheimer’s goes to be a core franchise for Biogen for many years to come back. We had very optimistic information on dapirolizumab again in September. And we have already initiated the second section 3. However we even have litifilimab in each CLE and SLE so we obtained a pleasant lupus portfolio of belongings coming alongside.

I would remind everyone, sure, persons are taking a look at plenty of potential rivals in section 1, section 2, however out of the handfuls and dozens and dozens of molecules that entered the clinic, solely three molecules have ever demonstrated a optimistic section 3 consequence, two are already available in the market and the dapirolizumab is the third. So we all know you can get enthusiastic about plenty of issues, but it surely’s not till you really see section 3 outcomes you can actually have conviction. However that is a probably vital market and suits properly with Biogen as a result of we will take plenty of the learnings from MS and apply that to lupus. And naturally, the third space are actually these auto antibodies.

We have now our anti-CD38. We’re anticipated to enter into three section 3 trials in three separate indications with auto antibody-mediated resistance, IgAN, the PMN. And we’ve very compelling section 2 outcomes right here. There are not any ensures any time in analysis and improvement, however I feel we really feel notably enthusiastic about felzartamab and the potential this might have in uncommon kidney illness.

And naturally, then we’ve an entire section of readouts coming alongside and I feel that may turn into the story of Biogen as we get more and more extra information and folks can achieve rising confidence and pleasure — share our pleasure in our pipeline. And so with that, I feel I will — let’s proceed the story on R&D. Priya, I will flip it over to you.

Priya Singhal — Government Vice President, Head of Improvement, and Interim Chief Medical Officer

Thanks, Chris. Biogen’s improvement group had one other very productive quarter. We achieved a number of necessary milestones throughout key strategic areas for the corporate. I wish to start with immunology, the place in collaboration with UCB, as Chris talked about, we initiated the second section 3 research for dapi pegol in SLE.

This follows the optimistic readout of the primary section 3 research and sharing of detailed research outcomes as a late breaker on the ACR Annual Assembly final 12 months. Dapi pegol, as Chris talked about, is barely the third agent with a optimistic world section 3 research in SLE. Moreover, felzartamab was granted orphan drug designation within the EU for each stable organ transplantation and IgA nephropathy. We consider this designation, which is meant to help improvement of remedies with vital unmet medical want, underscores the potential for felzartamab to turn into a significant new remedy for critical immune-mediated illnesses like AMR, IgAN and PMN globally.

In uncommon illness, we continued unlocking new geographies for Skyclarys. In Friedreich’s ataxia and Qalsody in SOD1 ALS. Leveraging the outcomes of the Skyclarys-positive MOXIe trial, we obtained approval in Chile and at present have 13 extra regulatory filings underneath evaluate. This consists of extra filings in Latin America, the place we count on regulatory selections this 12 months in nations comparable to Brazil and Argentina as we proceed our world rollout.

Importantly, we additionally took vital steps towards increasing the worth of key portfolio merchandise for sufferers. In SMA, regulatory filings for high-dose nusinersen have now been accepted within the U.S. and EU, and we count on an FDA choice in September of this 12 months. And in Alzheimer’s illness, we not too long ago acquired FDA approval for Leqembi much less frequent IV upkeep dosing.

That is each a big step for Leqembi and a significant development within the evolution of Alzheimer’s remedy extra broadly. I wish to briefly evaluate why there may be an urgency to deal with now and why upkeep is necessary based mostly on Leqembi information that we’ve obtained thus far, based mostly upon tau mind pathology. Subsequently, we’ve placebo-controlled scientific trial information throughout the complete early Alzheimer’s illness inhabitants, together with people with no and low tau, which represents the sooner levels of AD. On this inhabitants, 76% of sufferers confirmed no decline and 60% confirmed scientific enchancment at 18 months as assessed by CDR Sum of Bins.

What this implies is that in over three-fourths of early AD sufferers, their illness was stabilized and greater than half the sufferers confirmed improved signs when handled with Leqembi. The explanation why that is necessary is that this information means that sufferers handled early of their illness can see a profound profit, which underscores the significance of initiating remedy early. Moreover, this information additionally helps the potential of our ongoing presymptomatic AHEAD 3-45 trial. And now that I’ve proven you why early remedy initiation is necessary, let me remind you why the brand new upkeep IV approval can also be very crucial.

And that’s as a result of information exhibits that Alzheimer’s doesn’t cease after plaque elimination. Importantly, prior information from the Leqembi section 2 research and its open-label extension present that discontinuation of remedy is related to reaccumulation of Alzheimer’s biomarkers, together with amyloid plaques and importantly, a reversion again to the placebo fee of scientific decline. With its differentiated mechanism of motion, we consider Leqembi’s uniquely positioned as it’s the solely disease-modifying remedy in Alzheimer’s right this moment to indicate extra profit with continued remedy after plaque discount. As you possibly can see from this slide, the three-year information from the Readability AD research and its open-label extension help the potential for long-term profit to sufferers by exhibiting that continued Leqembi remedy resulted in a doubling of the scientific profit noticed at 18 months as in comparison with a matched pure historical past cohort.

With these findings in thoughts, we’re working with Eisai to ship extra choices for sufferers with the purpose of maximizing each the comfort and the scientific advantage of the Leqembi. This features a subcutaneous formulation with the potential for at-home administration to additional add to affected person optionality and comfort. For subcutaneous upkeep dosing, we now have a PDUFA date of August 2025. Subsequent 12 months, in 2026, we purpose to introduce subcutaneous dosing for remedy initiation, which we consider will enable much more sufferers to get began on remedy.

And constructing upon the encouraging outcomes we obtained within the no or low tau inhabitants in Readability AD, we proceed to advance evaluating AHEAD 3-45, evaluating Leqembi in people who’ve amyloid plaque pathology within the mind, however earlier than the onset of signs, which has the potential to additional develop using Leqembi. Turning now to the pipeline. We have now beforehand mentioned our efforts to enhance our pipeline with the target of rebalancing the chance profile and investing to win in key areas of anticipated future progress. Consequently, we’ve targeted our improvement efforts on a smaller set of clinical-stage applications that we consider are excessive conviction and well-positioned to ship a daily cadence of pivotal readouts and potential launches.

This consists of key late-stage applications which have the potential, as you see on this slide, to ship innovation to profit sufferers throughout Alzheimer’s and immunology. We are going to proceed to stay disciplined in our strategy as we proceed to evaluate inflection factors for our inner improvement pipeline but in addition as we consider potential exterior innovation alternatives that we consider might help help Biogen’s aim of sustainable progress. With that, I might now like handy the decision over to Mike for a monetary replace.

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Thanks, Priya. Good morning to everybody. I would like to start by offering some highlights from the reported outcomes. Whole income for the quarter was $2.5 billion, which represents 3% progress from the fourth quarter of 2023.

Fourth-quarter non-GAAP diluted EPS was $3.44 and that is 17% larger than the fourth quarter of 2023. For the complete 12 months of 2024, whole income of $9.7 billion represents a decline of two% from the — from 2023, per our most up-to-date steering of a low single-digit decline. And full-year 2024 non-GAAP diluted EPS was $16.47 and that is 12% larger than the complete 12 months 2023, additionally per our most up-to-date steering vary of $6.10 to — $16.10 to $16.60. EPS.

Development and working revenue growth in each the fourth quarter and full 12 months was supported by our Match for Development and R&D prioritization initiatives. We’re happy that this efficiency allowed us to generate $722 million of free money circulate within the quarter, which introduced us to $2.7 billion for the complete 12 months and that is an enchancment of $1.4 billion from $1.3 billion generated in 2023. Now I will flip to some feedback on income and industrial dynamics from the fourth quarter. Our MS product income declined roughly 8% at precise foreign money and 9% at fixed foreign money as in comparison with the fourth quarter of 2023.

And that was pushed primarily by competitors within the house, partially offset by some seasonal channel dynamics. Interferons continued to be impacted by competitors as sufferers transition to larger efficacy therapies, and Tecfidera continued to be impacted by generic competitors globally. Tysabri has seen some impacts from a biosimilar entrant in Europe. And though a biosimilar has not but launched within the U.S., we proceed to see competitors rising within the high-efficacy class.

Vumerity noticed a rise in demand within the quarter and likewise benefited from some seasonal channel dynamics. Subsequent, our uncommon illness franchise produced income of $535 million within the fourth quarter and that represented a progress of 13% at precise foreign money and 15% at fixed foreign money from the fourth quarter of 2023. World Skyclarys income within the fourth quarter was $102 million, a rise of 83% versus the fourth quarter of 2023 with almost double the variety of sufferers on remedy. U.S.

Skyclarys income within the fourth quarter was $71 million. We continued so as to add sufferers within the quarter, however income was sequentially impacted by a list construct within the third quarter that was drawn down within the fourth quarter in addition to some Medicare low cost dynamics. World Spinraza income of $421 million within the fourth quarter grew 2% 12 months over 12 months, together with progress within the U.S. of 6% 12 months over 12 months.

We’re inspired by the efficiency right here and stay up for a possible future launch of the high-dose choice. Zurzuvae delivered roughly $23 million of income within the quarter, and that was pushed by a rise in demand, partially offset by channel dynamics. And we once more noticed regular sequential progress for Leqembi with fourth-quarter world in-market gross sales booked by Eisai of roughly $87 million and that is up roughly 30% sequentially from the third quarter of 2024. Leqembi fourth-quarter end-market gross sales within the U.S.

had been $50 million and that is up roughly 28% sequentially from the third quarter of 2024. I will now flip to some feedback on dynamics from a number of key expense traces. Non-GAAP price of gross sales as a share of income improved 300 foundation factors within the fourth quarter as in comparison with the fourth quarter of 2023, and that was pushed primarily by decrease idle capability prices. Fourth-quarter non-GAAP core working expense or R&D plus SG&A expense elevated 4% 12 months over 12 months as the advantages from our R&D prioritization and Match for Development initiatives allowed us to principally soak up incremental spend related to our launches.

Non-GAAP different expense was $72 million within the quarter, and that was pushed primarily by internet curiosity expense. Non-GAAP diluted EPS was $3.44 within the fourth quarter, representing progress of 17% versus the fourth quarter of 2023. Now a short replace on our stability sheet. We generated $2.7 billion of free money circulate in 2024 because of robust working revenue.

Please notice that the timing of sure money tax funds in 2024 additionally benefited free money circulate. We ended 2024 with $2.4 billion of money and roughly $3.9 billion of internet debt and proceed to consider that our stability sheet stays robust and permits us to proceed to spend money on each inner and exterior progress alternatives. Turning now to our full-year 2025 steering ranges and assumptions. We count on full-year 2025 non-GAAP diluted earnings per share of between $15.25 and $16.25.

This steering vary, which relies upon FX charges on February seventh of 2025, features a $0.35 EPS headwind from international change when in comparison with common change charges in 2024. Whole income for 2025 is predicted to say no by a mid-single-digit share. That is pushed primarily by an elevated decline in our MS enterprise as in comparison with 2024. The strain on our MS enterprise is predicted to be pushed by potential biosimilar entry for Tysabri within the U.S.

this 12 months and potential generic entry for Tecfidera in sure European markets. We count on this decline to be partially offset by continued robust and rising income progress from our new product launches. Please notice, this income vary additionally features a roughly 1% headwind from international change. In 2025, we count on an influence from Medicare Half D redesign on the whole firm stage to be restricted roughly $50 million to $100 million.

We count on roughly one-third of this influence to be associated to Skyclarys with the rest coming from MS. On working bills, we stay on observe to ship the $1 billion of gross and $800 million of internet financial savings from our Match for Development initiative by the top of this 12 months. With this in thoughts, we count on full 12 months 2025 mixed non-GAAP R&D and SG&A expense to whole roughly $3.9 billion. And as it’ll take time for the financial savings to crystallize, we count on to see larger opex at first of the 12 months.

We count on non-GAAP working margin share to stay comparatively flat in 2025 as in comparison with 2024. And on the nonoperating facet of bills, I might spotlight the parts of our non-GAAP different revenue and expense line. This line consists of curiosity expense on our debt and another bills, partially offset by curiosity revenue on our money balances. For full-year 2025, we count on different revenue and expense to be a internet expense of roughly $180 million to $220 million.

And at last, some extra concerns as you concentrate on your fashions. As has been the case in earlier years, we count on the primary quarter to be pressured because of seasonality, pushed by larger reductions and allowances in addition to channel dynamics within the U.S., and that may principally influence our MS enterprise. I might additionally notice with regard to Fampyra that we terminated the license and collaboration settlement efficient January 1st, 2025. And as I simply talked about, our present 12 months steering takes account of the stronger greenback right this moment in contrast with the identical time final 12 months.

For modeling functions, every cent change within the euro versus the U.S. greenback impacts income by roughly $15 million. I might additionally refer you to the present slide in addition to our press launch for different necessary steering assumptions. And in closing, we welcome Robin Kramer, as Biogen’s CFO, following my retirement later this quarter.

This orderly transition plan has been in course of for a while now, and I’ve full confidence that Robin might be an amazing CFO. I am enthusiastic about Biogen’s future and can stay a supporter and shareholder of Biogen within the years to come back. And with that, we are going to now open the decision up for questions.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Nice. Thanks, Mike. Jennifer, can we go to the primary query, please?

Questions & Solutions:

Operator

Sure [Operator instructions] Your first query comes from the road of Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs.

Salveen Richter — Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my query. What’s your newest considering on the capability choice and potential time traces for exterior BD? And when it comes to your progress outlook, simply assist us perceive the stability between the present pipeline and the belongings you might herald? Thanks.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Thanks, Salveen. I imply I feel I will get Mike to offer you an replace on capability. As I stated, we’re very excited concerning the pipeline that we’ve. However I feel one of many issues that we would love to do is proceed to strengthen that pipeline.

Over time, I’ve come to the conclusion you can by no means have sufficient pipeline. First ingredient is we have accomplished a serious restructuring of analysis as a result of I feel as corporations in our trade, it’s totally costly to herald late-stage belongings. And we wish to have analysis be our main supply of innovation, clearly, internally, but in addition externally. And so I feel we’ve utterly restructured analysis to create the monetary capability in addition to the expertise capability to do extra collaborations and convey belongings in, notably pre-GLP tox.

Past that, we’re taking a look at just about each section, the early section improvement. Proper now, I might say Priya would in all probability agree with me that our early stage improvement pipeline continues to be comparatively skinny. However even when we will discover issues in section 3, if it is obtained a very stable section 2, I am not huge on taking plenty of threat on section 3 scientific trials as a result of that will get costly. And when it comes to acquisitions, we’ve been migrating in new areas comparable to immunology and uncommon illnesses.

And if we will discover acquisitions that may bolster our positions in that, we are going to accomplish that. We do not have a selected measurement that we’re searching for. It might be late stage improvement. It might be early stage industrial.

The one factor it has to do is make monetary sense. I feel the place we’re as an organization, we do not should be taking an enormous quantity of threat on acquisitions. That stated, we’re all the time wanting. We all the time have about a minimum of 15 to twenty totally different initiatives that we’re taking a look at, at anyone time.

However as , you sort of have to take a look at 100 issues earlier than you discover one thing that’s of curiosity. And Mike, perhaps you need to discuss capability?

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Sure. And Salveen, on capability, the stability sheet stays in wonderful form. As we talked about within the ready remarks, we ended the 12 months with $2.4 billion of money available. The EBITDA run fee is north of $3 billion a 12 months.

So with $6.3 billion of gross debt and $3.9 billion of internet debt, you are within the ZIP code of perhaps two turns gross and 1.5 turns internet. And we had been very happy with the free money circulate outcomes this 12 months or final 12 months, I ought to say, 2024, $2.7 billion. In order that money stability will proceed to develop. So while you take a look at the modest quantity of leverage, the $2.4 billion of money available the rising free money circulate, the stability sheet is in a wonderful place.

As Chris stated, the plan might be to remain very disciplined and solely do issues that make good monetary sense, however we have got vital capability to do a collection of smaller issues or maybe a bigger factor if it does make good monetary sense.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Mike. Let’s go to the following query, please.

Operator

We’ll take our subsequent query from Michael Yee with Jefferies.

Michael Yee — Analyst

Thanks. Priya, you talked about that on the Leqembi slide, one of many necessary developments is the potential for blood-based diagnostics. And my understanding is that, that is coming this 12 months. Are you able to stroll by how necessary that’s when it comes to any bottlenecks and particularly whether or not that absolutely would be capable of change PET or how that really works since diagnostics are slightly bit sophisticated.

Priya Singhal — Government Vice President, Head of Improvement, and Interim Chief Medical Officer

Sure. Thanks, Mike. So total, I feel that correct analysis of Alzheimer’s illness and affirmation of amyloid stays essential. And it’s the entry level for the sort of care pathway right here.

So it is necessary. I feel with the appearance of the anti-amyloid remedy, we have seen superb momentum there. And as Chris talked about, we’ve assessments out there right this moment which can be at triage kind of stage. The query right here is what’s the — what’s going to be the provision within the close to time period for an in vitro diagnostic authorized by the FDA that can be utilized extensively and can be reimbursed and provides physicians and neurologists confidence that they’ll really belief that final result and that consequence versus a PET.

And we expect that that is probably going to occur within the close to time period. Fujirebio has already filed. We all know there are a few others like C2N and Roche which can be kind of engaged on these IVDs or in vitro diagnostics. And one was already filed — Fujirebio filed final 12 months.

We consider that normally the time-frame is about 6 months. I feel the following stage might be producing information in order that payers and others are assured that it may adequately symbolize the Medicare inhabitants, which tends to be the broader inhabitants. So I feel concordance is necessary as is reimbursement. However we expect that is shifting actually quick, and we expect we’ll see fairly a number of milestones happen within the close to time period.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Thanks Priya. Let’s go to the following query, please, Jennifer.

Operator

The subsequent query comes from Tim Anderson with Financial institution of America.

Tim Anderson — Financial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Thanks. In your spend steering, you are saying $3.9 billion mixed R&D and SG&A which is about $200 million decrease than consensus. Revenues are additionally slightly bit decrease than consensus. So it offsets one another.

My query is how a lot does the Royalty Pharma deal take out of the R&D line in 2025, particularly? I do know it is $250 million in combination that they’re going to fund, however what’s that reduction to 2025 R&D? After which on Royalty Pharma, can we count on Biogen to do extra of those off-balance sheet varieties of transactions with pipeline applications over the following one to 2 years.

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

So, Tim, Mike talking. On the Royalty Pharma transaction, our present expectation is that the $200 million that we might obtain in 2025 from Royalty Pharma can be accounted for as a discount to R&D expense. So that may be a dollar-for-dollar discount that is within the mixture of our steering.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Nicely, simply when it comes to different offers, the remuneration to these offered financing is normally by royalties. And it isn’t simple to make work for each product. So I feel for the time being, we take a look at this as a one-off transaction. However it’s a helpful mannequin to take threat off the desk and be capable of unfold the funding throughout extra belongings.

I imply it is primarily a means of getting extra photographs on aim.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

All proper. Thanks, Chris. We’ll go to the following one, please.

Operator

Go subsequent to Brian Abrahams with RBC Capital Markets.

Brian Abrahams — Analyst

Hello. Good morning. Thanks for taking my query. On Skyclarys, are you able to elaborate slightly bit extra on the dynamics you are seeing within the U.S.? Like are there methods to speed up affected person identification to meaningfully develop income there? Ought to we expect this to extra be an ex U.S.

worldwide progress product? And the way are the hurdles when it comes to reimbursement outdoors the U.S.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Within the U.S., I feel there have been already plenty of artistic approaches. One is utilizing AI and searching throughout social media to have the ability to establish the place sufferers are. As I stated earlier than, there’s fairly numerous potential prescribers you might go to. So the query is how do you zero that right down to a geography and a sort of doctor that makes the go to environment friendly.

And so say, we have used the AI. Clearly, as — everytime you develop a remedy for a illness, there is a larger curiosity in diagnosing it. And so I feel one of many issues that we’re seeing is a a lot larger use of genetic testing. Genetic testing does have a value and physicians haven’t all the time been fascinated with utilizing it if it wasn’t going to result in a remedy.

However now that Skyclarys is there, we’re seeing that elevated utilization. The ultimate factor is utilizing multi-unnichannel advertising and marketing to have the ability to attain physicians simply to teach them about what’s Friedreich’s ataxia. There are additionally a number of ataxias on the market. And in order that’s the place the genetic testing can turn into necessary.

However while you take heed to the affected person journeys, it may take usually three, 4 years earlier than a affected person will get a definitive analysis. A variety of notably youthful persons are simply sort of regarded as clumsy for a time period after which progressively lose mobility and it takes some time as a result of there are plenty of physicians who’ve by no means even heard of Friedreich’s ataxia, and in order that’s the place the training is required. I might say right this moment with the know-how we’ve, we’ve plenty of instruments that we did not have even 15 years in the past. However it’s nonetheless discovering affected person by affected person.

We take a look at what number of sufferers we discovered each week. After which it is — the reimbursement is not actually a difficulty within the U.S. There are hurdles to it. That is the place Biogen is especially good.

We have now a really adept group that may assist sufferers navigate the reimbursement system. In Europe, I do not suppose we’re essentially seeing any — going to seek out any problems with reimbursement. It is principally getting by the entire course of, presenting the cost-effectiveness information however we’re very inspired by the uptake. And upon getting uptake, then that is an excellent demonstration of the worth of the medication relating to discussing issues with reimbursing nations.

So it will likely be progressive. I feel there are 10 nations right this moment in Europe, which we reimburse, and each quarter, we’ll be including extra nations. And the identical might be true ex Europe, in Latin America, for instance.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

We’ll go to subsequent query, please, Jennifer.

Operator

We’ll go subsequent to Marc Goodman with Leerink Companions.

Marc Goodman — Analyst

Yeah. Good morning. May you give us slightly extra taste on what’s taking place with Spinraza within the U.S. and OUS, simply dynamics and the way a lot stock is mattering and what’s taking place with pricing? Just a bit extra shade there.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

I will let Mike take the stock query. Spinraza, so it is a very aggressive market with a really restricted variety of sufferers. So you’ve got obtained a gene remedy, an oral remedy and an intrathecal remedy, all competing for a comparatively small affected person quantity. There are literally fairly plenty of sufferers who haven’t been identified or handled.

So we are usually in youthful sufferers, however there may be really a a lot bigger grownup affected person inhabitants. And getting at these is lots like the identical course of that I simply described for Friedreich’s ataxia. So we’re doing that. So the attention-grabbing factor is how do you compete in a market like that? And we have all grown up on this enterprise and we are saying, OK, one capsule a day beats two capsules a day, a capsule beats an injection.

However the precise actuality is in plenty of these devastating illnesses, it is efficacy that issues. And that is actually the story of Spinraza. The excessive dose, I feel, might be necessary as a result of you will get to the therapeutic ranges of drug that you simply want a lot quicker, and in a neurodegenerative illness, that is extraordinarily necessary. So we will minimize the variety of loading doses, when you like, from 4 to 2 and you then go to 3 injections per 12 months.

One of many issues that I feel might be necessary is we’re growing a tool that hopefully will hit the market about, I feel, 2026, Priya. And it is a port you can insert underneath the pores and skin just about wherever on the physique, however actually across the stomach for instance and has tiny catheters that result in the spinal column. And which means you can really simply do the injection straight underneath the pores and skin. That has had big affected person optimistic response and that might really make intrathecal injections an entire lot extra affected person pleasant, not simply in SMA, however just about for the entire intrathecal merchandise that we’re growing.

So I feel that one will even be a sport changer going ahead. And Mike, do you need to discuss concerning the stock dynamic?

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Sure. And Mark, nothing to name out on stock. We did see some lumpiness in Spinraza income all through 2024 because of some cargo timing and so forth outdoors of the U.S. However the fourth quarter, the worldwide 2% progress and the 6% within the U.S., nothing materials to name out when it comes to stock or channel dynamics.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Let’s go to subsequent query, please.

Operator

We’ll go subsequent to Paul Matteis with Stifel.

Paul Matteis — Analyst

Hey. Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my query. Chris, when you take a step again now, you bought to be at some extent, I might suppose, with Zurzuvae, Skyclarys, lecanemab to some extent, though perhaps the variance of outcomes there’s a little bit wider.

Or a minimum of for the following couple of years, you in all probability have a fairly good window into the vary of outcomes for these merchandise. So I assume taking a step again, do you are feeling like you will get again to sustainable income progress based mostly on what you’ve gotten internally and what you’ve gotten excessive visibility into? Or how necessary, I assume, is getting a giant upside win from the pipeline or shopping for progress externally through BD.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Proper. Nicely, we have got about — when you add within the all the things, there’s in all probability about $4.5 billion of income in MS left and possibly about $3 billion of revenue. In order that’s going to be the headwind over the following 5 to 10 years as a result of really, a few of these merchandise are literally fairly sticky with sufferers as a result of sufferers do properly on these merchandise and have a tendency to remain on them. So it is a slower decline.

In order that’s the issue we’re fixing for. If you take a look at it, the No. 1 product that has essentially the most potential to offset is that’s clearly Leqembi. And there, I feel we’re inspired by the more moderen outcomes, and I feel we really feel fairly assured that these catalysts may supply the potential to see some acceleration of progress.

So we do consider that there is a great unmet want in Alzheimer’s. Folks overlook that it is a deadly illness. And while you take a look at the information that Priya confirmed, when you may get 76% of sufferers stabilized on this, that is — that is information that I feel we actually must do extra of in demonstrating the worth proposition of Leqembi. So we’ve plenty of totally different approaches.

We have, I feel, had extraordinarily productive discussions with our associate, Eisai, on the industrial strategy. And there was an terrible lot of effort firstly, simply to elucidate care pathways and the unwanted side effects and the reimbursement. And I feel now we will really focus much more on the worth proposition and why treating sufferers. I feel there’s an enormous alternative in increasing the prescriber base.

We have now targeted on a smaller quantity simply due to the trouble concerned by the neurologist. However I feel with issues just like the subcutaneous formulations and the upkeep, we’ve a chance to go broader, there’s about 13,000 physicians who’re targets, and we’ve a small fraction of these right this moment who’re really prescribing. So there’s lots there, and Skyclarys will proceed to develop, as we stated. Zurzuvae is actually an attention-grabbing, I would name it sort of a two-base hit in baseball phrases within the U.S.

Europe will in all probability be a extra restricted set of markets that may really be capable of reimburse this product. I feel we have got lots that we could be doing. I feel the true progress story is while you begin to see the pipeline coming by as a result of because the MS portfolio declines and the brand new merchandise turn into a much bigger a part of the equation, then abruptly you add a pipeline product on high of that. And the good factor about Biogen is that $1 billion actually strikes the needle.

So we do not want lots right here to actually have a significant influence on our progress. And so I feel it is a mixture of the entire above, Paul. We are going to see an rising share of our enterprise coming from these new merchandise and the pipeline can solely increase that.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Chris. Let’s go to the following query, please.

Operator

We’ll go subsequent to Umer Raffat with Evercore.

Umer Raffat — Analyst

Hello, guys. Thanks for taking my query. I need to say thanks to Mike for all of your assist over time, and welcome to Tim. I’ve two questions right this moment, if I’ll.

First, perhaps for Priya. In a state of affairs the place Lilly hits TRAILBLAZER Alzheimer’s 3 in preclinical on the development endpoint, how does that issue into your considering round how you might speed up time traces for AHEAD 3-45? And in addition your consolation with the endpoint getting used there. And secondly, Chris, perhaps a giant image query. It looks like with the place the valuation stands right this moment round $20 billion in market cap relative to the quantity paid for Reata in addition to the quantity of stability sheet out there for an extra deal developing.

I assume, market is sort of reflecting considerably of a view that the M&A decisions within the final couple of years could not have been what market was anticipating or maybe the expectations had been larger. I assume how do you concentrate on all of that? And what learnings are you taking from that into extra capital deployment? As a result of it will likely be a really vital transfer if there have been to be a $10 billion deal once more.

Priya Singhal — Government Vice President, Head of Improvement, and Interim Chief Medical Officer

I can get began. Thanks, Umer. So I feel, total, we stay excited, as I shared in my ready remarks concerning the potential for AHEAD 3-45. Only a reminder is that we accomplished enrollment final 12 months.

It is a four-year remedy. And so we count on — and Eisai has not too long ago really reiterated the end result anticipated in 2028. Now that stated, we all the time retain and we all the time proceed to guage optionality for earlier readouts and earlier cuts, and we proceed to have interaction with regulators just like the FDA very intently on this, and all of that’s progressing properly. Now essentially the most — in order that’s sort of the acceleration piece.

I feel the necessary piece right here is the way in which we have designed the trial. It’s fairly particular for amyloid load. And as , it is two sister trials, one with a decrease amyloid load that is AHEAD 3 after which 4, 5, which is a better amyloid load. Now within the AHEAD 3, we’ve a biomarker final result, which is amyloid clearance primarily.

However within the 4, 5, the place sufferers have a better load of amyloid, we’re taking a look at an important endpoint that is referred to as the PACV, which is the preclinical Alzheimer’s cognition composite. This includes parts of reminiscence, the intelligence take a look at, MMSE and different parts. And it’s speculated to be fairly delicate and particular for preclinical AD. TRAILBLAIZER 3 has totally different outcomes like CDR — CDR world rating and can also be doing a time to occasion.

So I feel we’ll wait to see extra on how that unfolds. However I feel we really feel very assured concerning the design of this trial and what it may really inform us about stopping or slowing down onset of Alzheimer’s illness. Over to you, Chris.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Sure. I imply, Umer, look, there is a human issue right here, proper? One of many issues I’ve seen over time is that your curiosity in doing vital acquisitions is sort of inversely proportional to your stage of confidence in what you’ve got already obtained in your pipeline. So when you do not suppose you’ve gotten lots in your pipeline, you are extra prone to be fascinated with spending extra externally. And whether or not that is logical or not, it’s tended to be the place you might be.

And I’ve to say coming into Biogen, we tended to go after the toughest issues to unravel, the place we did not perceive the underlying illness biology, the place we did not actually have section 2 information that might actually predict the place we had been in section 3. And at that time, you kind of say, properly, if you do not know what you’ve got obtained, you are extra fascinated with taking a look at issues. I might say the place we at the moment are two years down the street is I feel Reata, with the steely eye has actually taken plenty of the stuff out of our pipeline that both was by no means going to make it to market or if it did make it to market, it was by no means going to have a lot influence. And what we do have, and we have got extra information now, provides us an entire lot extra confidence.

I imply, while you obtained a dapirolizumab now with a section 3, I imply, litifilimab has superior. The HI-Bio acquisition, we see as fairly transformative for our pipeline as a result of that’s precisely what we wish to see extra of is information in section 2 that actually provides you a way of some stage of conviction into section 3 recognizing that there are by no means any ensures in R&D. So I feel the place we’re is we may proceed to do extra of the HI-Bio kind transactions. We really just like the Reata transaction.

Possibly TheStreet had a special view, however I do not suppose theStreet actually utterly perceive how a few of these uncommon illnesses actually work. For us, over time, we consider that Skyclarys goes to be a big product. I feel it’s already a big product. If we discovered one other Reata the place we — you’ve got obtained a product that’s about to be launched in the marketplace, and you might purchase it for a value that generates a return for our shareholders then we might do it.

However I feel a part of the issue is I do not suppose the people who find themselves promoting corporations have fairly built-in plenty of the pressures which can be on this trade. The IRA is a de facto discount in patent life for our trade, and there is plenty of pricing strain from world wide. So the overall industrial return for anyone molecule right this moment is just not what it was even 5 years in the past. And but, I do not see actually any shift within the premiums being paid or the value being paid.

And there is all the time an asymmetry between the merchandise that and the merchandise that you will purchase. And so I feel proper now, we are saying we are going to look, if we may discover one other Reata, we might in all probability do it. We do not notably need to do one deal that takes all of our money circulate as a result of I feel there may be an curiosity in constructing the pipeline with a number of belongings. If we may do extra HI-Bios, that is in all probability a pleasant candy spot for us.

We have sort of concluded that really, we will in all probability handle fairly properly till the pipeline matures even additional. So we do not really feel any explicit strain to do issues however I do suppose it is a job of each management particular person on this enterprise to continually look outdoors if we will discover different sources of innovation. However I am really feeling excellent about the place Biogen is. Our share value could or could not mirror it, however I am actually not alone on this curiosity in considering that the share value would not mirror the place we’re.

And I feel that is — it is a perform of plenty of the uncertainty round our trade. However we’re simply protecting our heads down and executing on our launches and ensuring these merchandise get to market. And discovering if there are shareholder value-enhancing transactions that may be accomplished at just about any stage of the worth chain.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Let’s go to the following one, please, Jennifer.

Operator

We’ll go subsequent to Chris Schott with J.P. Morgan.

Chris Schott — Analyst

Nice. Thank a lot for the query. I need to come again to the opex house. I do know the corporate is wrapping up its Match for Development program and there is some shifting items right here with the Royalty Pharma deal.

However as we take into consideration the P&L going ahead, is this type of $3.9 billion or so opex house an excellent tough quantity to consider for Biogen going ahead? Or is there another shade about how to consider margin development as we take into consideration the following few years? Thanks.

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Sure, Chris, I feel that is proper. The Match for Development program was designed to take our opex to a stage that helps our income expectations. And I feel that as we exit 2025 and go into future years. Clearly, if we’ve launches to help and different issues, we’ll must spend money on these appropriately.

However I feel the way in which that you simply described it’s right. And this system might be accomplished on the finish of this 12 months and the $3.9 billion base fee is an effective an excellent quantity to make use of as your baseline mannequin.

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Sure. And clearly, enterprise improvement, each time you do a deal, you herald probably new R&D expense. However I feel what you’ve got seen us do is prioritize. We have really stopped plenty of inner applications, which really creates the monetary capability to carry different belongings in.

One of many greatest issues of enterprise improvement sometimes has been is that the R&D price range is full, and there’s no room to herald new issues. Nicely, we are literally making a few of these tough decisions and the identical is true on analysis. We have now dramatically diminished our analysis price range however the concept was not essentially to only save price. The thought was that we needed a special combine in there.

And by prioritizing, we will really do enterprise improvement with out having to extend our total expenditure, a minimum of that is what we have been in a position to take action far.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

After which we’re working brief on time. Possibly to squeeze one or two final ones and let’s go to the following one.

Operator

We’ll go subsequent to Evan Seigerman with BMO Capital Markets.

Evan Seigerman — Analyst

Hello, guys. Thanks a lot for taking my query. Mike, congrats in your retirement. You can be missed.

Robin. I am actually wanting ahead to working with you. And Tim, congrats in your first Biogen earnings name, I obtained that every one in. I need to contact very briefly on using GLP-1s in Alzheimer’s illness.

Novo Nordisk has talked lots concerning the EVOKE trial, excessive threat, excessive reward. What occurs if that hits, and this might evolve the usual of take care of the sort of prevention of Alzheimer’s illness. Priya, would love your ideas there.

Priya Singhal — Government Vice President, Head of Improvement, and Interim Chief Medical Officer

Sure. Thanks, Evan. It is a very attention-grabbing speculation. And it is supported by some preclinical information in addition to meta evaluation that was taking a look at all-cause dementia after which some subsets, which additionally had Alzheimer’s illness.

And actually, the scientific speculation behind it’s considering by about how glucose metabolism or regulation of that may influence neuro irritation, vascular well being, all of that and contribute to sort of extra mind well being scenario. And I feel that, that could be a — it is worthy of exploring. I imply — I feel we have to keep in mind that some randomized managed trials have failed within the house, Takeda with pioglitazone after which really Novo with liraglutide, small trial, 72 topics, the ELAD trial, they did not meet their main endpoints. That stated, I feel we stay up for seeing the outcomes.

What I feel is de facto necessary to proceed to recollect is that while you’re tackling one thing like Alzheimer’s illness, you might want to deal with the central pathology. We additionally notice that the central pathology is just not an in a single day buildup, however construct up over years. So for that cause, we proceed to consider that an anti-amyloid agent like Leqembi that actually addresses plaque, however continues to handle soluble poisonous species after plaque clearance may have an necessary position to play. So I feel we’re wanting ahead to the outcomes of EVOKE and EVOKE+ identical to everyone.

However I feel we proceed to consider that that is going to be — Leqembi goes to play and proceed to play an necessary position.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

OK. Let’s go to our final one, please.

Operator

Our final query comes from Phil Nadeau with TD Cowen.

Phil Nadeau — Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for becoming as in. Let me add our congratulations to Mike, Robin and Tim on their transitions. Simply to drill down on the Leqembi short-term trajectory slightly bit extra intently.

In This fall, income was up 30%, however the income acknowledged was solely up $1 million. Are you able to discuss concerning the dynamics behind that? Have been there onetime points? Or is there a rise in spend that we must always challenge into 2025? And taking a look at 2025 traits, progress in 2024 was largely pushed — not totally pushed, however largely pushed by ex U.S. Is that replicable in 2025? Or are the low-hanging fruit of these markets already picked?

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Nicely, I feel Leqembi within the U.S. was actually up 200% This fall on Q1. And so we’re seeing vital progress within the U.S. Sure, the ex U.S.

has actually been robust as properly. However I feel it is each. So I feel for 2025, within the absence of the rest, we see just about persevering with traits can be our greatest guess at this. There could also be some acceleration with the IV upkeep however we’re not going to get the subcutaneous for upkeep till actually within the final a part of the 12 months.

Blood-based diagnostics may play a job, however everyone knows that it takes some time to get diagnostics to be really accepted and reimbursed. So I feel we will simply see good, regular progress quarter on quarter. There hasn’t been that a lot influence of but on donanemab. That would have a job sooner or later, however I feel they’re coping with the identical points that we’re.

I feel the large factor is de facto to, as I say, to develop the prescriber base. I feel actually give attention to the advantage of remedy and roll out these new formulations. So I feel it is going to be continued progress. We clearly proceed to consider that Alzheimer’s is usually a vital market, and that is why we’re investing not solely in tau, however in different modalities.

The unmet want is unbelievable, 500,000 new sufferers yearly. It is one of many main causes of loss of life. Definitely amongst over 65 12 months olds, but it surely’s even a high 10 explanation for loss of life simply within the basic inhabitants. So to not point out the devastation that this causes to household.

So the unmet want is big. It’s clear that within the brief time period, we’ve plenty of capability constraints, however I feel we have made plenty of progress in relieving a few of these. And so I feel now with these new formulations comparable to subcu and with the blood-based analysis, we’ve a chance to speed up our progress, I might say, over the following two to 3 years.

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Sure. And Phil, on the numbers, simply to reiterate one thing we stated within the ready remarks, the Leqembi fourth-quarter finish market income was $87 million globally. That is up about 30% sequentially from the third quarter of 2024. Within the U.S., it was, of the $87 million, $50 million within the U.S., and that is up about 28% sequentially.

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Thanks, Mike, and thanks, everyone, in your time right this moment. The IR staff is obtainable when you’ve obtained questions later right this moment. Thanks.

Operator

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Name individuals:

Tim Energy — Vice President, Head of Investor Relations

Christopher Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Priya Singhal — Government Vice President, Head of Improvement, and Interim Chief Medical Officer

Michael R. McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Salveen Richter — Analyst

Chris Viehbacher — President and Chief Government Officer

Mike McDonnell — Chief Monetary Officer

Michael Yee — Analyst

Tim Anderson — Financial institution of America Merrill Lynch — Analyst

Brian Abrahams — Analyst

Marc Goodman — Analyst

Paul Matteis — Analyst

Umer Raffat — Analyst

Chris Schott — Analyst

Evan Seigerman — Analyst

Phil Nadeau — Analyst

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